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 Post subject: Re: GomTV S4 [Update!]
PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:29 pm 

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well lets just wait and hope for the best, we cant do much more anyway

but i must say,
tasteless i miss your casting hope i can watch wcg


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 Post subject: Re: GomTV S4 [Update!]
PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:12 pm 

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I hope GOM keeps going. It was the best way to get pro gamer casts in English.


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 Post subject: Re: GomTV S4 [Update!]
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:05 am 

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Has he done any recently? WCG?


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 Post subject: Re: GomTV S4 [Update!]
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:42 pm 
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yep Tasteless casted WCG with Artosis

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 Post subject: Re: GomTV S4 [Update!]
PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:26 pm 
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200th post is gonna be pretty sad

http://www.scforall.com/sctv/sc_tv01.as ... movNum=378

@ the end Tasteless says "doesn't look like there's gonna be a Gom TV Season 4, they may be doing other things SC related"

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 Post subject: Re: GomTV S4 [Update!]
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:29 pm 
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Yeah.. seems like there will be no S4. But if they host some other SC stuff I'd be happy too :)


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 Post subject: Re: GomTV S4 [Update!]
PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:43 am 

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Bull-Biscuits!

Kespa has an opportunity to go international and they don't even f-ing get it. Korea is a drop in the sea compared to the number of people who want to see this internationally. That's the reason Blizzard went with Gom; they can bring korean players to English speaking countries where they are marketing SC2 and build up battle.net. They made a significant investment in Korea and in that multiplayer market to make SC2 fun to play; Kespa hasn't even tried to do something in English.

If you Google kespa their main site; www.e-sports.or.kr/ ; has been blacklisted by google for being full of malicious software; firefox won't even open it. X-D

Another fun fact: SC2 doesn't have LAN play as far as I heard. What would completely inhibit kespa from doing tourney's legally? The recent delay has been said to be for work on battle.net.

As-is I would gander kespa won't even be allowed to do tourney's of SC2 and that is quite entertaining. The manufacturer gets what they want.

Since the situation is political (you have to have a license to play in korea; who greases the wheels there, Kespa?) you will likely see Blizzard sponsor some kind of international tourney for SC2 using a lot of the parts from GOMtv. Kespa will likely remain in control of e-gaming in Korea for some time to come but internationally the players and teams who compete there will refuse to be hindered by Kespa since there's more money to be made elsewhere.

It would be a real spit in their face if Blizzard went to sponsor all 12 teams anyway but hey. What I'd do is go to blizzard hat-in-hand, ask for more money, (~100K usd) double the prize money and see who comes and who walks. Put on a real party and end the season right as SC2 comes out then double the prizes again for an SC2 tourney. Watch Kespa squirm real hard; the big chip here is when Blizzard approaches the table a 2nd time Kespa will take what they are given.


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 Post subject: Re: GomTV S4 [Update!]
PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:00 pm 
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KeSPA would have to change a fair amount of their setup to work internationally (not to mention their name).

One big thing would be adapting to scale. Korean e-Sports pretty much takes place in Seoul. While it is a large city, it doesn't compare to the scale of many other provinces/states/(prefectures/cantons/départements/etc.) let alone countries. The corporate sponsored team-based intra-city competition would probably not work on a wide scale. More likely would be the creation of city or country-based teams, like with many physical sports. From that would come issues with scheduling disrupting practice times.

Since going to a match would probably involve a flight or at least a multi-hour bus ride, Proleague scheduling would need to be done carefully, but StarLeagues would probably work fine, since they would be done once a week, and it is rare for one player to go there more than twice in a month, if that. The big issue would be that scheduling between them would be tough, since a team could have a star player playing individual league somewhere in another country from where the team match is being played, and now needs to red-eye it back, quite possibly damaging their performance.

That being said, these probably aren't insurmountable road-blocks, but instead a consideration of some aspects of KeSPA's current method that would not adapt to scale without work.


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 Post subject: Re: GomTV S4 [Update!]
PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:17 pm 

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It's a simple deal!

"You promo us and only us as the officially sanctioned worldwide authority on Star-craft & Starcraft 2 E-sports, give us a monopoly on pre-SC2 media coverage and let us make a few requests for code changes here and there e.g. a kespa only observer as we have our top 4 teams compete for cash prizes to demo the product, and we will host competitions internationally to promote your game and build up pressure for an international release."

Internationally they are going to have competitors and there's nothing you can do about that; the difference between strategies is in one instance they move international, make a LOT more money advertising and promoting goods in other countries, and have the potential to move into other e-sports. In the other they are king of their little kingdom for as long as Blizzard deems fit. Blizzard can shut down battle.net korea anytime they want to and bar anyone from modifying the code.

I'm sure they have their reasons but unless it's "we don't want that responsibility" it's seriously dumb.


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